Comments for Miia Ranta http://myrtti.fi/blog Nerdette ravings Tue, 01 May 2012 13:22:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 Comment on Viglen MPC-L from Xubuntu 10.04 LTS to Debian stable by myrtti http://myrtti.fi/blog/2012/04/30/viglen-mpc-l-from-xubuntu-10-04-lts-to-debian-stable/comment-page-1/#comment-3105 myrtti Tue, 01 May 2012 13:22:59 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=979#comment-3105 what a shame, I do hope that there will be alternatives around when 486 support is dropped, the experience with Debian(-based distros) has been excellent so far and it'd be shame to leave the hardware unused :-| what a shame, I do hope that there will be alternatives around when 486 support is dropped, the experience with Debian(-based distros) has been excellent so far and it’d be shame to leave the hardware unused :-|

]]> Comment on Viglen MPC-L from Xubuntu 10.04 LTS to Debian stable by Jon Severinsson http://myrtti.fi/blog/2012/04/30/viglen-mpc-l-from-xubuntu-10-04-lts-to-debian-stable/comment-page-1/#comment-3104 Jon Severinsson Tue, 01 May 2012 12:47:38 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=979#comment-3104 Actually, it is i486 vs. i686. Ubuntu 10.04 was the last release supporting i486. In Ubuntu 10.10 the i486 kernel was removed and all userland updates was compiled for i586 (so just getting a i486 compatible kernel wouldn’t be enough, you would also have to recompile most of the userland packages). By Ubuntu 11.10 all supported kernels (both generic and generic-pae) was updated to require i686, and all userland updates was compiled for i686. The only change in Ubuntu 12.04 was changing the default kernel from generic to generic-pae, but the installer is supposed to auto-detect missing pae support and install linux-image-generic instead in that case. Debian, on the other hand, compiles all userland for i486, and the installer will automatically choose between a i686 (non-pae), i686-bigmem (pae, for >4 GiB RAM) or i486 (for i486 and i586) kernel. That said, there was discussion on dropping i486 (and possibly even i586) support from wheezy (current Debian testing), and while that didn't happen, it probably will happen for wheezy+1. Actually, it is i486 vs. i686.

Ubuntu 10.04 was the last release supporting i486. In Ubuntu 10.10 the i486 kernel was removed and all userland updates was compiled for i586 (so just getting a i486 compatible kernel wouldn’t be enough, you would also have to recompile most of the userland packages). By Ubuntu 11.10 all supported kernels (both generic and generic-pae) was updated to require i686, and all userland updates was compiled for i686.

The only change in Ubuntu 12.04 was changing the default kernel from generic to generic-pae, but the installer is supposed to auto-detect missing pae support and install linux-image-generic instead in that case.

Debian, on the other hand, compiles all userland for i486, and the installer will automatically choose between a i686 (non-pae), i686-bigmem (pae, for >4 GiB RAM) or i486 (for i486 and i586) kernel.

That said, there was discussion on dropping i486 (and possibly even i586) support from wheezy (current Debian testing), and while that didn’t happen, it probably will happen for wheezy+1.

]]> Comment on Viglen MPC-L from Xubuntu 10.04 LTS to Debian stable by myrtti http://myrtti.fi/blog/2012/04/30/viglen-mpc-l-from-xubuntu-10-04-lts-to-debian-stable/comment-page-1/#comment-3099 myrtti Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:41:32 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=979#comment-3099 it's not if the kernel is PAE or not, it's about if it's 486 or 586. I don't claim to know anything about kernels, but I believe this is the rub. it’s not if the kernel is PAE or not, it’s about if it’s 486 or 586. I don’t claim to know anything about kernels, but I believe this is the rub.

]]> Comment on Viglen MPC-L from Xubuntu 10.04 LTS to Debian stable by Elizabeth Krumbach http://myrtti.fi/blog/2012/04/30/viglen-mpc-l-from-xubuntu-10-04-lts-to-debian-stable/comment-page-1/#comment-3098 Elizabeth Krumbach Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:30:40 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=979#comment-3098 For what it's worth, Xubuntu 12.04 ships with the non-pae kernel (so it's different than Ubuntu), we did this intentionally so we could still support old systems out of the box. But we will probably end up having to drop it for 12.10 since Ubuntu main probably won't be maintaining it anymore. For what it’s worth, Xubuntu 12.04 ships with the non-pae kernel (so it’s different than Ubuntu), we did this intentionally so we could still support old systems out of the box.

But we will probably end up having to drop it for 12.10 since Ubuntu main probably won’t be maintaining it anymore.

]]> Comment on A meme that I can happily participate in to by Shell statistics | beatwaves.net http://myrtti.fi/blog/2008/04/11/a-meme-that-i-can-happily-participate-in-to/comment-page-1/#comment-3076 Shell statistics | beatwaves.net Mon, 02 Jan 2012 20:36:07 +0000 http://koti.kapsi.fi/myrtti/blog/2008/04/11/a-meme-that-i-can-happily-participate-in-to/#comment-3076 [...] picked up this meme from the summercode IRC channel via myrtti. (You can follow it back quite far from there…) sbergen@jt7-153 ~ $ history|awk '{print [...] [...] picked up this meme from the summercode IRC channel via myrtti. (You can follow it back quite far from there…) sbergen@jt7-153 ~ $ history|awk '{print [...]

]]> Comment on Ubuntu 11.10 on an ExoPC/Wetab, or how I found some use for my tablet and learnt to hate on-screen keyboards by myrtti http://myrtti.fi/blog/2011/11/06/ubuntu-11-10-on-an-exopcwetab-or-how-i-found-some-use-for-my-tablet-and-learnt-to-hate-on-screen-keyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-2876 myrtti Sun, 06 Nov 2011 23:04:26 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=922#comment-2876 yeah, the device came originally with MeeGo, and the experience was painful enough not to be repeated again. The tablet UX didn't get much love, and now MeeGo is practically dead with interests moving forward. yeah, the device came originally with MeeGo, and the experience was painful enough not to be repeated again. The tablet UX didn’t get much love, and now MeeGo is practically dead with interests moving forward.

]]> Comment on Ubuntu 11.10 on an ExoPC/Wetab, or how I found some use for my tablet and learnt to hate on-screen keyboards by andybleaden http://myrtti.fi/blog/2011/11/06/ubuntu-11-10-on-an-exopcwetab-or-how-i-found-some-use-for-my-tablet-and-learnt-to-hate-on-screen-keyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-2875 andybleaden Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:49:46 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=922#comment-2875 Interesting. I am keen to see where and when Ubuntu and or other Linux based Os can hit on tablets as well as perhaps they have done on netbooks etc.Really useful guide. After all I have read about UDS this week it seems that Ubuntu are rightly looking at other media to be installed on and are ready for the challenge also. Right now I would have thought that Unity would be really usable on a tablet. At the moment though I am just not tempted by tablet technology though...except where I have seen it used for older people and the one selling point which was playing Mahjong! Thanks again for that... I assume you have tried the Meego OS on this device or is it new? Interesting. I am keen to see where and when Ubuntu and or other Linux based Os can hit on tablets as well as perhaps they have done on netbooks etc.Really useful guide. After all I have read about UDS this week it seems that Ubuntu are rightly looking at other media to be installed on and are ready for the challenge also. Right now I would have thought that Unity would be really usable on a tablet.
At the moment though I am just not tempted by tablet technology though…except where I have seen it used for older people and the one selling point which was playing Mahjong!

Thanks again for that… I assume you have tried the Meego OS on this device or is it new?

]]> Comment on Ubuntu 11.10 on an ExoPC/Wetab, or how I found some use for my tablet and learnt to hate on-screen keyboards by myrtti http://myrtti.fi/blog/2011/11/06/ubuntu-11-10-on-an-exopcwetab-or-how-i-found-some-use-for-my-tablet-and-learnt-to-hate-on-screen-keyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-2873 myrtti Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:04:40 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=922#comment-2873 I get the feeling these different UI paradigms are only lipstick on a pig when the basic things like scrolling and right-clicking don't work. I have used gnome-do and related solutions in my XFCE for years and I don't actually mind Unity or GnomeShell at all. I get the feeling these different UI paradigms are only lipstick on a pig when the basic things like scrolling and right-clicking don’t work. I have used gnome-do and related solutions in my XFCE for years and I don’t actually mind Unity or GnomeShell at all.

]]> Comment on Ubuntu 11.10 on an ExoPC/Wetab, or how I found some use for my tablet and learnt to hate on-screen keyboards by myrtti http://myrtti.fi/blog/2011/11/06/ubuntu-11-10-on-an-exopcwetab-or-how-i-found-some-use-for-my-tablet-and-learnt-to-hate-on-screen-keyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-2872 myrtti Sun, 06 Nov 2011 22:02:56 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=922#comment-2872 twofing gave no help in my situation, I manage to rightclick accidentally every now and then, but have no idea how, and the scrolling is just atrocious. I've pretty much given up on the virtual keyboard issue as well as none of the virtual keyboards will give me the speed a proper keyboard does. twofing gave no help in my situation, I manage to rightclick accidentally every now and then, but have no idea how, and the scrolling is just atrocious.

I’ve pretty much given up on the virtual keyboard issue as well as none of the virtual keyboards will give me the speed a proper keyboard does.

]]> Comment on Ubuntu 11.10 on an ExoPC/Wetab, or how I found some use for my tablet and learnt to hate on-screen keyboards by pitpat http://myrtti.fi/blog/2011/11/06/ubuntu-11-10-on-an-exopcwetab-or-how-i-found-some-use-for-my-tablet-and-learnt-to-hate-on-screen-keyboards/comment-page-1/#comment-2859 pitpat Sun, 06 Nov 2011 08:32:54 +0000 http://myrtti.fi/blog/?p=922#comment-2859 Hey, Its great that you're experimenting with ubuntu on the tablet. I hope the community and canonical takes care of these basic usability issues, so that we can have a nice creamy OS which can attract application makers. In the end, its the applications that make the OS truly shine and appealing to the end user. Hey, Its great that you’re experimenting with ubuntu on the tablet. I hope the community and canonical takes care of these basic usability issues, so that we can have a nice creamy OS which can attract application makers. In the end, its the applications that make the OS truly shine and appealing to the end user.

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